She mentioned that she had gone to the same high school with Phil. Riz: Yeah, so I met her a few years ago because I was involved in adapting one of her books into a movie. Tessa: Well, I never met her, but Phil knew her and they wrote letters back and forth. Well, before we jump into the whole Matrix thing, I thought I’d tell you a story that I heard from another science fiction writer. In a small group or one-on-one, he was okay, but he didn’t do well in crowds.

I read about that, had sort of agoraphobia where he just didn’t want to be outside or around a lot of people. Sometimes he had trouble leaving his house at all. Tessa: Right, so he wanted to be in walking distance. Riz: He had a driver’s license, but he just didn’t like to drive? Tessa: He needed to be close to shops and banks and things like that because he didn’t like to drive. Then when he left, he moved to Santa Ana, which is basically a stone’s throw away from Fullerton. Tessa: Well, always in Fullerton, first in apartments and then in a rented house. Riz: Where did you guys live when you were married? Riz: Now, you lived in southern California, right? Tessa: Yeah, he really had an attachment to northern California. Dick walking tour in Berkeley and so we saw all these different places where he lived in Berkeley. … When I got involved with Radio Free Albemuth, they took us on a Philip K. Tessa: Yeah, southern California, San Bernardino County.

It’s a little mountain community just below Lake Arrowhead. As I said, this was originally for my book, which is going to be about the simulation hypothesis, which is the idea that we are living inside a virtual reality, but we may go ahead and broadcast it as a podcast, as well.

Adjustment Team by Philip K. Dick